The Constitution, As A Piece of Paper

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I had a rather interesting conversation with a Democrat the other day.  We were talking about the Constitution and the powers of Government.  He was insisting that the Government wasn’t actually doing anything unconstitutional because if they were the USSC would put a stop to it right away.

I told him the Constitution was being violated everyday just in DC.  Of course I was “wrong” because, well  him being a Democrat I just was.

I told him I could give him 3 examples just in Article 1, Section 8, clause 17.  For example DC is supposed to be under the control of Congress.  Again, I was wrong because I lean right.  So I said here let me look it up for you.

“To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States,…” So here you have 2, count them 2, violations of the Constitution.  One, congress has allowed DC to have, and as such relinquished their responsibility, a Mayor and City Council to run the Federal City.  Two DC is right now 68 sq miles, that means 58 sq miles is not supposed to be there.

His response was I am still wrong because that’s not how it is.  Still haven’t figured that one out, but it goes on.

Then I told him about Federal Parks, unconstitutional, which again I was “wrong.  “and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;”

So I asked him what needful buildings, Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock yards that he knew of in ANY Federal Park in this Country.  So the obvious answer, National Parks are unconstitutional.  I mean do you see anywhere that National Parks, the ability of the Federal Government to exclude people from using perfectly good land, is even hinted at in the Constitution?  Yep, you guessed it, I’m wrong and the argument? You have something against National Parks?

Now on the face of things and in the grand scale of life, this isn’t a big deal.  This guy isn’t the entire Party, but it is something I notice as a pattern.  Democrats tend to argue this way.  And facts are just a different way to interpret the same reading material.  Believe it or not he said just that.

This is what is seriously wrong today with the voters of this Country.  This guy isn’t a kid, he is only a bit younger than I am, yet he has no clue what the Constitution actually is for or about.  It is a document that is not there to support the wants and desires of the Government, it is an instrument  or a barrier to prevent the Government from becoming the instrument of our freedoms destruction.  Simply put it is there to not allow the Government to do more than it is enable to do.

Article 1, Section 8 list the enumerated powers of Congress.  If you don’t know it or have never read it, you have really short-changed yourself.  Read it, understand that the Founders believed that what they said is what they meant.  Not a sway this way or that more than a slight sway.  It is worded so that the average person can understand what is being said.  There is really not much to be debated in the first 15 Amendments, but that’s another blog.

So your thoughts.  Where is my thinking gone wrong in the Constitution debate with the Democrat?  The left tends to think that it, (The Constitution), is rather loosely worded and the right tends to take the majority of it as it is, but also will loosely interpret it.

Let’s here what you think.

chas

“Rebellion to Tyranny is Obedience to God

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7 Responses to “The Constitution, As A Piece of Paper”

  1. wonker Says:

    Interesting blog, I’ll try and spread the word.
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    Thank you.

    chas

  2. watcat Says:

    Hi this blog is great I will be recommending it to friends.
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    Your friends are my friends. Thanks for the support.

    chas

  3. Mary Says:

    Chas, simple but to the point. As I get older, I find myself looking back to what was written so very long ago. I have often questioned their statements but everything that has been said, written, debated, has become so clear. Our founding fathers were right, how can anyone question their knowledge. We need to get back to basic constitutional principles, but I only see that the “left” wants to change the Constitution. I fear that they will success. With the next appointment to the Supreme Court, it might be where the change will begin. I would welcome your thoughts on the Supreme Court.
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    Jefferson felt that the people would right any damage by short term change in the long run. I’m afraid that we have swung to far to return and lay his hope to waste. The hope here is that no new appointments will be made unless it’s Ginsberg and she’d just be replaced by another liberal, so no change.

    chas

  4. capmotion Says:

    chas, your insights are always most impressive. We’ve discussed this point privately and it need not be repeated here. I do think one of the greatest vehicles for transporting us to the brink of the abyss of tyranny is for the people to remain ignorant of the Constitution. The Framers gave us a written Constitution so there could be no disagreement with what was meant, so there could be no expansion of what was meant without amendment, and so the national government could not make forays across its intended boundarylines [largely defined by Art 1, section 8] [which could be violently resisted by the people, the intended gist of the 2d Amendment]. What is not in Art 1, section 8 [or later amendments], is reserved to the states or to the people.
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    Thank you cap. I believe that it was Adams who said if the Constitution is to mean whatever we believe it means we should hasten the parchment to the fire. Paraphrased of course, but it’s close.

    And thank you for your response and compliments. Not so sure it is all deserved but it is appreciated.

    chas

  5. Sterling Says:

    chas, the left is counting on most people not being familiar with the Constitution, and being rather intimidated by it as well. This is a very frustrating thing for me. It’s there for all of us. It’s written simply enough for any reasonable person to understand. We own it. It’s ours. It’s our treasure, and I hate that most people aren’t familiar with it’s content. I say again, the socialists are wagering that they can steamroll it without a fight. And based on your experience with your co-worker, I’d say they’re gaining some success. I respect most folks, and their opinions, but I never believe anything based on rhetoric. I research and then make my own opinion. Unfortunately, the streaming masses are not so inclined.
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    The three things the Government needs to socialize the Nation is control of education, health care and the banks. We are buying number three now and working towards number 2 at a scary rate.

    chas

  6. DogOnCrack Says:

    Thank you Teddy Roosevelt!!!
    I trust you have a fine view of Mt. Rushmore from upstairs.
    Or is it downstairs?
    Either way, speak softly and carry a paper shredder!
    Thank your cousin on our behalf for his hatchet job as well.
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    And if it weren’t a surprise, it was a court ruling that allowed the Federal Government to accept land that was ceded by a State. Another court granted power despite the obvious black and white restriction laid out in the Constitution.

    chas

  7. Frank C Says:

    Chas, good one. Everyone feels the framers of the Constitution left a lot to interpretation. They did not. As a matter of fact I think they had a catch all sentence.

    “Any power not specifically delegated to the Federal Government is reserved for the States.”

    Simple but hard hitting statement.
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    Or to the People. Don’t forget that part.

    Jefferson also said if there is any doubt as to the meaning, return to the time of the writing. Paraphrased but it is what he meant. In other words Government shouldn’t run your life, you should run Government.

    chas

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